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Poster: William Tell Date: May 5, 2008 4:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Commercial Hits, 65-70

Folks: I know we haven't covered this one, but in the spirit of the "hits" compilation threads of late, what would be your list of hits for single CD for this time period? IE, off CDs such as one might find in the Golden Road Boxed Set...throw in DPs too if you like, but they must be from this time period and NOT be SBDs or what have you.

Any and all suggestions welcome. Which songs do you feel would be absolutely necessary to represent the best of the best of this time period? I would shy away from simply stating "Live Dead" as that would take up three quarters of the disk, but have at it...

Thanks in advance.

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Poster: SkyDawg Date: May 6, 2008 1:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Commercial Hits, 65-70

Morning Dew & Viola Lee from the first album
Alligator>Caution>Feedback from Anthem
New Potato Caboose from Two From The Vault
China Cat,St Stephen and the original mix of Mountains from Aoxomoxoa
Dark Star from DP 4 (Fillmore East 2/13/70)
Cryptical>OO>Cryptical>Cosmic Charlie, Good Lovin, It's A Man's Man's World & Dancing In The Streets from DP 8 (Harpur College 5/2/70)

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Poster: William Tell Date: May 6, 2008 6:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Commercial Hits, 65-70

Damn--I really screwed up in not having a NPC! I will have to have two disks: one with the studio versions and one with live versions for this time period. Too bad that I can't find perfect matches for all the songs I want (ie, a studio and a live version for each...for some it would be easy, eg, UJB, but others, like GRoad, the live ones just don't cut it...this is for a "casual fan" so the live ones have to be top notch vocally).

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Poster: Death&Mercy Date: May 5, 2008 6:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Commercial Hits, 65-70

hey WT,

off the top of my head:


China Cat > The Eleven - DP22

Rosemary - Aoxomoxoa

Doin That Rag - Aoxomoxoa

Mountains of the Moon > Dark Star - Complete Fillmore (27th)

Lovelight - Complete Fillmore (28th)

TOO > Crypt > TOO > Death Don't - Complete Fillmore (2nd)

Dancin In The Streets - DP8

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Poster: William Tell Date: May 5, 2008 6:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Commercial Hits, 65-70

Ah, MotM-->DS is a must...

Good list.

Off the top of my head (this is for a friend/request/etc), I was going with more straight up "standard tunes" (ie, GRoad, BoRain, etc), but like your thoughts on the matter...

Thanks.

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Poster: user unknown Date: May 5, 2008 8:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Commercial Hits, 65-70

BIODTL
Morning Dew
New, New Minglewood Blues
UJB
Dire Wolf
Black Peter
St. Stephen
MotM
Box of Rain
FotD
Operator
Ripple
Brokedown Palace
Attics of My Life

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Poster: William Tell Date: May 6, 2008 6:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Commercial Hits, 65-70

Ah--you hit many of them right on. Attics was a song that for the first 30 yrs I rarely listened to...must be the aging business, cause I really love it now. It is the best song, IMHO, for revealing the vocal abilities of the boys...

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: May 6, 2008 4:42am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Commercial Hits, 65-70

Early Morning Rain [3:19]
Mindbender [2:39]
It's All Over Now Baby Blue (Birth, Live sides) [5:13]
Death Don't Have No Mercy (instrumental, 1st album bonus tracks) [5:20]
TOO > New Potato Caboose (3-17-68, Download Series 6) [ca. 17:00]
Morning Dew (4-27-69, DP26) [10:47]
Dire Wolf (11-8-69, DP16) [8:24]
Cold Rain and Snow (10-4-70, So Many Roads outtakes--can I use that?)
China > Rider (10-4-70, So Many Roads outtakes--can I use that?)
Doin that Rag (So Many Roads outtakes--can I use that?)
Dancin' in the Streets (10-5-70, Family Dog 2-4-70 Download Series disc)

Interesting challenge! The above may be a hair over 80 min, as I didn't bother to check timing on everything.

I chose the shorter TOO>NPC to save space and because I think the early 1968 versions are archetypal.

Phil is awe-inspiring in the CRS and China > Rider from the SMR outtakes.

The 10-5-70 Dancin' is not likely to be your style, Tell, as it has a more relaxed, spacey groove than most 1970 versions.

Please note that I left out my favorite TOO (3-1-69) because I was in greatest hits mode, as you suggested. Also, I left out The Eleven (e.g., 2-28-69) because I didn't want to excerpt from jams.

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Poster: William Tell Date: May 6, 2008 6:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Commercial Hits, 65-70

Thanks, Lou; you and CPW really put your hearts into it.

What surprises me is how much overlap there is in everyone's list. Now, some might saw that is because there isn't that much to work with and that I restricted it greatly with my lead in requirements, but still...

I am now going to take everyone's suggestions and split the next batch into two: as I said above, a studio only and live only pair of CDs.

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Poster: Hannaninou Date: May 6, 2008 6:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: questions for a study project

Hello everyone

I am writing a study project about the WayBack machine.

Two quick questions:
1. if I go to a 2001 version of Napster, will I be able to download music for free?
2. if I go to a 2005 version of facebook, will I be able to register under that version?

Thanks for your help !

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: May 6, 2008 7:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: questions for a study project

Yeah of course you can - I thought everybody was doing that. Better yet, if you go to Amazon you can pick up stuff at 1999 prices. And (don't tell everyone about this) if you stop off in 2005 you can order a copy of Fillmore 69 and make a killing on ebay. Good, huh?

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: May 6, 2008 7:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: questions for a study project

While we're on the subject, does anyone have a good recipe for turnips?

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Poster: snore Date: May 6, 2008 7:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: questions for a study project

Yes.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: May 6, 2008 7:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: questions for a study project

Another question:

If I put my cat in a cement mixer, will my 86 Taurus turn into a turnip?

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Poster: William Tell Date: May 6, 2008 9:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: this one's easy...off to DETETNTION for SDH

No.

It will turn into a 75 Gremlin. Exploding gas tank at no extra cost.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: May 6, 2008 9:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: this one's easy...off to DETETNTION for SDH

I see, said the blind man.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: May 6, 2008 10:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: this one's easy...off to DETETNTION for SDH

Detetntion.... that's near Albuquerquerque.

Right?

:-)

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: May 6, 2008 11:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: this one's easy...off to DETETNTION for SDH

Detetntion...wasn't that something to do with the Cold War? Or was that Detentetion?

Wait, I remember something about the Detet Offesive in Vietnam. Could it be related?

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Poster: William Tell Date: May 6, 2008 1:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: released from DETENTION for history lesson

"De Tet" offensive. CLASSIC.

"We got em right where we want em...de more de attack, de more we keels em."

--de general westmoreland (or less)

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Poster: high flow Date: May 6, 2008 1:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: released from DETENTION for history lesson

yeah.....now I need de-tetanus shot!

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Poster: William Tell Date: May 6, 2008 1:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: this one's easy...off to DETETNTION for SDH

Damn...looks like this student is joining SDH, but for spelling practice.

But it was only a mechanical failure, not a true mis-spelling...

Does typo = mis-spelling?

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: May 7, 2008 12:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: this one's easy...off to DETETNTION for SDH

Mechanical failure sounds about right. I always maintain that my spelling is wonderful, but my typnign leaves something to be dsesried.

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Poster: William Tell Date: May 7, 2008 7:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: this one's easy...off to DETETNTION for SDH

I really am getting worried...I am getting worse and worse. Virtually ever post has something along these lines in it. I see "sheak" for "sneak" right below here...I type "they" for "the" all the time, but that seems a mis-spelling of a different color.

I don't know if age is involved or what, but it is a tad worrisome.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: May 7, 2008 7:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Why Can't We All Just Get Along?

"...mis-spelling of a different color."

What color IS mis-spelling? And why bring race into it?

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Poster: William Tell Date: May 7, 2008 8:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why Can't We All Just Get Along?

E gads! And with all my efforts to be color blind I stepped right into it.

Speaking of getting along, I think that tito must be related to Zappa; did you read BD's post a quote? negating every truism in one fell swoop...sounds like somebody we both know.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: May 7, 2008 8:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why Can't We All Just Get Along?

'He once was lost but now
fondue, was blind
But now rantoul.'

A year's supply of kudos to whoever can source that one.

:-)

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Poster: William Tell Date: May 7, 2008 8:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why Can't We All Just Get Along?

"The booklet that came with the original "Manhole" album. On one song Pete Sears is credited as "Seeder Pears". I liked the fun things like that that would go on in the booklets, innersleeves and inserts of the original LP'S. Think of the totally fake lyrics to "Come Again Toucan" in the "Manhole" booklet, perfectly illustrating the point of the song's ACTUAL lyrics that "mistakes are made because words are misunderstood". And Grace's note about the song "Manhole" itself; "We had to put antifreeze in the Steinway or it would have sounded like cuticles." What on Earth??

And then there's the "Amazing Grace" poem about Maurice on the back cover of "Burgers":

"And the Mighty Maurice
He once was lost but now fondue
Was blind but now rantoul". "

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: May 7, 2008 8:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why Can't We All Just Get Along?

Damn it, WT, as if you were in any need of more kudos...

I love the booklets that used to come with the LPs (somehow CD inserts just aren't the same)- like the one with Sunfighter (spellinx by Grace Slict - she can join our club). Always reckoned Silver Spoon as a great track on that album - 'So long all day sucker, your candy has come and gone, and it's left you with you mouth wide open, just humming cannibal songs' - and you realise, sucker that you are, that that's exactly what the Slick Witch has got you doing. Great stuff.


'Those of you who are serious about this whole thing, oozing along like a Cadillac, need some good solid hospital wacco in the nose.'

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Poster: William Tell Date: May 7, 2008 11:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why Can't We All Just Get Along?

Me too.

Of course, I was clued by your prior praise of them in previous posts to put a point on it with "P's"...

But it came up right away when I googled her and a few keywords...even though they were mis-spelled.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: May 7, 2008 8:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why Can't We All Just Get Along?

mis-spelling is most asuredly chartruese (which of course, i just may have misspelled)

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: May 7, 2008 8:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: this one's easy...off to DETETNTION for SDH

It may just be symptomatic of your mind being focused elsewhere than on the froth and bubble of this little internet hideaway. But I suspect you're something of a perfectionist in all you do and I can see it rankles to let slip-ups escape into the world. I've just been politely admonished by a publishing colleague for not spotting that 'Renaissance' had been spelled with one 's' in a set of proofs I was supposed to have checked. So it isn't just you - but at least here it doesn't matter that much.

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Poster: William Tell Date: May 7, 2008 8:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Proof this!

Ah, the "joy" of a good set of proofs...something we share across the pond. Just when you think it's over and that you'll never again have to see that document, there it is in all its splendor (or not), and you are forced to, with glazen eye, go over it ONE MORE TIME...argh.

The only joy in Mudville in such times is the fact that you will never again be req'd to do so...and then the big bucks will be rolling in, so that ease's the pain a tad (we can hope, right?).

Hope it goes well with all your proofs past, present and future!

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: May 6, 2008 7:10am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Commercial Hits, 65-70

"Thanks, Lou; you and CPW really put your hearts into it."

I actually banged mine out on the fly before leaving for work. It occurred to me only after I'd finished that I completely left out material from actual LP releases, and that my "greatest hits" was more a mix tape for seasoned veterans than an introduction for newbies. Upon further reflection, I really should have fit in the New Speedway Boogie from Fallout From the Phil Zone.

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Poster: William Tell Date: May 6, 2008 9:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Commercial Hits, 65-70

Ah, excellent selection for the "live" CD!

Hmmm...just realized that means I can sheak in HtH, 8/6, from Zone too, as long as I move into 71 for live versions (Bertha, Donna-less GSET, and then HtH...).

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: May 6, 2008 10:02am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Commercial Hits, 65-70

You're just baiting me.

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Poster: William Tell Date: May 6, 2008 6:19am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Thanks all!

I was busy doing "it" while you were all working hard...

Can't recall the entire set-list, but here are most (many overlap with your fine suggestions):

GoldRd
EarlyMornRain
BIODTL
IKYRider
StSt (Aox)
DEMeIn
MDew (1st)
MotMoon (Aox)
CE--OO--CE (Anth)
UJB (live on remast WMD)
NSBoog (studio)
StSt11 (2-11-69 release)
Box (studio)
BDPal (studio)

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: May 6, 2008 12:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Commercial Hits, 65-70

The Scorpio single: "Stealin'" is a must.

"Lindy" is a probability.

"Sons & Daughters" - the a-side of "Fire In The City"
- stream at: http://www.archive.org/details/gd1966-12-05.sbd.kimbro.23064.sbeok.shnf

"Confusion Prince", "Standing On The Corner", "Keep Rolling By" and others from Birth of the Dead:

"Early Mornin' Rain" and "The Only Time Is Now", both feature some of Phil's finest vocals.

"I Know You Rider" with vocals from the early '66 studio sessions or from Vintage Dead (9/16/1966)


"Empty Heart" - on 1966 Rare Cuts & Oddities

"Cream Puff War", "Hey Little One", "Betty & Dupree" - on 1966 Rare Cuts & Oddities

Maybe the super fast "Good Loving" and "King Bee" from Rare Cuts.

"Golden Road", "Cold Rain & Snow", "Sitting On Top Of The World" "Cream Puff War", "Morning Dew" & "New New Minglewood Blues" off the remastered expanded debut LP (WB-Rhino).

At least "Alligator" from Anthem of the Sun.(with some or all of side 1 if room).

Two From the Vault has the supposed quintessential "New Potato Caboose"

"St. Stephen", "China Cat Sunflower", "Rosemary", "Duprees Diamond St. Blues" "Mountains Of The Moon" from the original Aoxo-mix (derived from clean vinyl pressing)

original 45 mix of "Born Cross-Eyed" (not the thinner, slightly edited mix, as streamed on IA) and Dark Star (extended single mix) or "Dark Star" from Live Dead if there's room.


"Cumberland Blues", "Dire Wolf", "High Time" "New Speedway Boogie" "Easy Wind" from remastered Workingman's Dead.


"Box of Rain", "Till The Morning Comes", "Truckin'" "Ripple" "Candy Man" "Attics Of My Life" off the American Beauty half speed remaster.



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Poster: William Tell Date: May 6, 2008 6:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Commercial Hits, 65-70

Great work, CPW! I knew you'd come thru.

Yep, I had to have some of those examples of Phil on the 65 tracks. Love those more and more.

I really enjoy the studio efforts of the time period more and more as it shows just how versatile the boys were, and what they could do vocally when they put their minds to it.

Added Attics (AB studio) to show this clearly...

Thanks.

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Poster: ganges Date: May 6, 2008 12:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Commercial Hits, 65-70

Forgive me for being one year late (71) - but the 71 version of Bertha from Skull and Roses!!!

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Poster: William Tell Date: May 6, 2008 6:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Commercial Hits, 65-70

I realized I blew it since I didn't get in a Bertha!

Good call...hmmm, a follow up CD?